File talk:Spr 4p 407 m.png

Explain something to me: why is this not the same sprite as this? If there is no reason, then I will have to conclude that Spr 4h 407 m.png is different from Spr 4p 407 m.png. ^ht14 22:07, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

Not all uploads of a sprite come from the same source, you know. Sprite rippers don't all use the exact same methods. The same sprite placed at the "Spr 4? ###.png" (we'll call this slot A) position by unnamed ripper A and a sprite placed at the "###.png" (we'll call this slot B) by unnamed ripper B wouldn't be seen by the system as the exact same file due to minimal differences in how the sprite rippers rip the sprites. Such differences between slot A and slot B are especially apparent in those with current game sprites of Generation III or Generation IV Pokémon that may have had uploads to slot A and slot B at different times. They're more common with the normal coloration, and from there with the male gender differences, primarily because some people give preferential treatment to normal-color male sprites and neglect the rest. Trust me, there were points during the Platinum update (back when we didn't have the alternate-coloration current game sprites, and the current game sprites fro the female gender differences wound up neglected for quite a time), where the only spritework for a Pokémon that got updated was the slot B sprite, without any upload to slot A at all; such treatment may have been prone to a "ripper A, slot A"/"ripper B, slot B" scenario.

In this instance, we have a "ripper A, slot A"/"ripper B, slot B" scenario on our hands. Slot B was initially Platinum-updated to the female gender difference instead of the male; however, the correct slot B for a female gender difference in this case was 407 f.png. When Kenji-girl rectified this mishap, the gender difference correction was done with a sprite from a different source rather than a simple reupload of the slot A sprite. That's the reason slot A and slot B in this case are not showing up as duplicates of one another; they came from different rippers.

The fact that this scenario is still lingering right now is the fact that Roserade is a Generation IV Pokémon. The first two generations, as well as a select few others who had slight coloration differences, were able to undergo a HeartGold/SoulSilver update to their slot B sprites (this time including all alternate colorations and gender differences included), and these usually followed on the heels of a slot A upload based on the same ripper (there were primarily two sources used whose full names I dare not utter lest I get in trouble with the Bulbapedia editor-in-chief; one starts with an S, the other with a V). Since Roserade didn't have any sprite alterations in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the ripper difference scenario is still in place because there wasn't new spritework to update the slot B sprite with. --Shiningpikablu252 00:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)