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:The fact that this scenario is still lingering right now is the fact that Roserade is a Generation IV Pokémon. The first two generations, as well as a select few others who had slight coloration differences, were able to undergo a HeartGold/SoulSilver update to their slot B sprites (this time including all alternate colorations and gender differences included), and these usually followed on the heels of a slot A upload based on the same ripper (there were primarily two sources used whose full names I dare not utter lest I get in trouble with the Bulbapedia editor-in-chief; one starts with an S, the other with a V). Since Roserade didn't have any sprite alterations in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the ripper difference scenario is still in place because there wasn't new spritework to update the slot B sprite with. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC) | :The fact that this scenario is still lingering right now is the fact that Roserade is a Generation IV Pokémon. The first two generations, as well as a select few others who had slight coloration differences, were able to undergo a HeartGold/SoulSilver update to their slot B sprites (this time including all alternate colorations and gender differences included), and these usually followed on the heels of a slot A upload based on the same ripper (there were primarily two sources used whose full names I dare not utter lest I get in trouble with the Bulbapedia editor-in-chief; one starts with an S, the other with a V). Since Roserade didn't have any sprite alterations in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the ripper difference scenario is still in place because there wasn't new spritework to update the slot B sprite with. --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 00:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Thank you for clearing that up for me. I needed to know the reason behind this. However, I did realize that while uploading duplicates, there is a notification that cautions me whether or not I'd still like to upload that file. For that, I don't think the reasoning behind the "ripper A, slot A is different from ripper B, slot B" idea is accurate. There are different uploaders for [[:File:003 f.png|this]] and [[:File:Spr 4h 003 f.png|this]] for instance, but they are registered as identical. | |||
::I'd like to also point out that this may be the reason behind different sprites for normal-colored Pokémon, but the same for shiny-colored ones. One instance is with Mareep. The normal sprites for it are different (compare [[:File:Spr 4d 179.png|this]] and [[:File:Spr 4p 179.png|this]]), however, the shiny sprites are the same. Might this be a result of what you're saying then? [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#E1E1E1"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#B69E00"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 01:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC) |
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Explain something to me: why is this not the same sprite as this? If there is no reason, then I will have to conclude that Spr 4h 407 m.png is different from Spr 4p 407 m.png. ht14 22:07, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
- Not all uploads of a sprite come from the same source, you know. Sprite rippers don't all use the exact same methods. The same sprite placed at the "Spr 4? ###.png" (we'll call this slot A) position by unnamed ripper A and a sprite placed at the "###.png" (we'll call this slot B) by unnamed ripper B wouldn't be seen by the system as the exact same file due to minimal differences in how the sprite rippers rip the sprites. Such differences between slot A and slot B are especially apparent in those with current game sprites of Generation III or Generation IV Pokémon that may have had uploads to slot A and slot B at different times. They're more common with the normal coloration, and from there with the male gender differences, primarily because some people give preferential treatment to normal-color male sprites and neglect the rest. Trust me, there were points during the Platinum update (back when we didn't have the alternate-coloration current game sprites, and the current game sprites fro the female gender differences wound up neglected for quite a time), where the only spritework for a Pokémon that got updated was the slot B sprite, without any upload to slot A at all; such treatment may have been prone to a "ripper A, slot A"/"ripper B, slot B" scenario.
- In this instance, we have a "ripper A, slot A"/"ripper B, slot B" scenario on our hands. Slot B was initially Platinum-updated to the female gender difference instead of the male; however, the correct slot B for a female gender difference in this case was 407 f.png. When Kenji-girl rectified this mishap, the gender difference correction was done with a sprite from a different source rather than a simple reupload of the slot A sprite. That's the reason slot A and slot B in this case are not showing up as duplicates of one another; they came from different rippers.
- The fact that this scenario is still lingering right now is the fact that Roserade is a Generation IV Pokémon. The first two generations, as well as a select few others who had slight coloration differences, were able to undergo a HeartGold/SoulSilver update to their slot B sprites (this time including all alternate colorations and gender differences included), and these usually followed on the heels of a slot A upload based on the same ripper (there were primarily two sources used whose full names I dare not utter lest I get in trouble with the Bulbapedia editor-in-chief; one starts with an S, the other with a V). Since Roserade didn't have any sprite alterations in HeartGold/SoulSilver, the ripper difference scenario is still in place because there wasn't new spritework to update the slot B sprite with. --Shiningpikablu252 00:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
- Thank you for clearing that up for me. I needed to know the reason behind this. However, I did realize that while uploading duplicates, there is a notification that cautions me whether or not I'd still like to upload that file. For that, I don't think the reasoning behind the "ripper A, slot A is different from ripper B, slot B" idea is accurate. There are different uploaders for this and this for instance, but they are registered as identical.
- I'd like to also point out that this may be the reason behind different sprites for normal-colored Pokémon, but the same for shiny-colored ones. One instance is with Mareep. The normal sprites for it are different (compare this and this), however, the shiny sprites are the same. Might this be a result of what you're saying then? ht14 01:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC)