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Be careful!

2 probs when you were changing the Stadium images into transparency, the first of which will involve me going and reverting them all, redoing them, and then fixing problem 2.

  • As evidenced easily at File:Stadium003.png, some aspects (such as Venusaur's fangs) were accidentally removed when making transparent.
  • When you make them transparent, take away the needs transparency template.

Thank you, immewnitythemew 00:36, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I should have been more careful. I'll try going around and fixing them again if they haven't been already. As for 2, I was not aware that I could remove the templates; I thought that kind of thing was left to the admins. Thanks for pointing that out. --Jello 04:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
It's okay. I forget about templates all the time. It was mostly just problem one. And, as I've also been told, only welcome users that have contributed. Thanks!--immewnitythemew 23:58, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Location pics

Hey. I could use some help on getting location pics. Interested? --Hmdwgf 18:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I have been adding images to that area from time to time. What do you have in mind? Jello 18:31, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Great. This and this. This is an almighty task, and that's why I've been rounding up a few trustworthy users who can get good quality pics for these articles. --Hmdwgf 18:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
Fantastic. Just keep it coming, and we can get this done faster than you can say "Pokémon". --Hmdwgf 19:23, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
You've been doing a great job so far and I really need your help getting these location and header pics. Just keep them coming, especially those Pikachu shorts pics. --Hmdwgf 16:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm just waiting for the rest of the episodes to download which is taking quite a while, also, I can't seem to find anything about the newer Pikachu shorts. :( Jello 23:20, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
So you do know about that... the talk pages are not the places to talk about that. I'll e-mail you a few source pages. --Hmdwgf 17:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you

For sifting through all those images and putting the delete tag on the ones that weren't used. However, when you replaced the series head image template on the other, you should have put on {{i-Fairuse-screenshot-anime}}, and not just {{i-Fairuse-anime}}. The latter is only for things like posters, artwork, and any non screenshot, anime related material. Do you mind going through and fixing the ones you just did? MaverickNate 20:49, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, sorry about that, I knew I was missing something. I'll go fix them again. Thanks --Jello 20:51, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for your help and all, but can you please ensure that the sprites are actually unused? The one I just moved is currently being used by someone's userpage... ht14 23:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty no problem, I thought it would be okay since it only linked to a user page, so shouldn't that be classified under personal images? Sorry for any trouble. Jello 23:18, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Check your e-mail MaverickNate 23:20, 11 February 2010 (UTC) it's gone to the point where it links to the mainspace... ht14 04:36, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

I've replaced those images with the .pngs on their pages. It shouldn't be a problem now hopefully. Jello 05:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
When you upload the images, you want breaks in between the lines, not spaces. Just an enter break would be fine, you don't need to go all fancy and use the <br>. Mind doing that from now on? MaverickNate 23:26, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! =] MaverickNate 23:56, 13 February 2010 (UTC)

Few things to Ask !!!

Hey Jello, firstly I would like to say thank you for all the help. Well, I succeeded in solving Art Work from Red & Green problem but I am still facing some problem in spirits. I can easily make them transparent but the frames aren't working properly. I would like to ask few questions.

1. Is it necessary/must to set the speed to 250ms?
2. Is it necessary to write Layer 1 (250ms) (replace)? Can I write COMBINE instead of REPLACE?
3. How to confirm the correct size of the images? (32px x 48px etc.)
4. Can I save the images as animation?
Thank You. --♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 15:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
No problem!
1. Well, if you're working from already animated frames, it's best to leave the set speed. However, if you're working from scratch, figuring out the timing can be difficult, especially with a lot of frames.
2. 'Replace' is what clears the previous frame. This is what you want in your animations, seeing as how yours had all the frames squished together. 'Combine' does what it's named for, it combines all the frames together, and doesn't clear the previous frames.
3. The correct size depends on what's the standard here. I looked over at User:UltimateSephiroth/Sprites to get some kind of idea, since that user seems more informant about these kinds of things. You can look at the majority size of the sprites uploaded, that should also give you a good guess. If you're really unsure, it'd be best to ask an admin.
4. Yes, you can save as 'animation'.
Also, I just looked over the animated sprites you uploaded and noticed a few more things. You need to be careful that you get all the white parts out. Some of the frames, you seemed to have missed a spot. Try hiding all the layers and then working on one frame at a time. You can also preview the animation by going to 'Filters' → 'Animation' → 'Playback'. It's a tedious task, but it's better to get it right the first time. --JelloTalk 20:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Got it. I will again try to follow your steps and I will try to ask User:UltimateSephiroth/Sprites about this stuff too. Thanks again :) --♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 02:38, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Er hem.

Make sure that when adding the gamesprite template, they are the sprites for those games only. I believe all the Pokémon found in the regional dex of Platinum have their separate sprites. Simply put, look on the bottom of each sprite to see if it says duplicate. Then follow accordingly. Or, you can have a look at this. Also, it's i-Fairuse-sprite-game, not i-Fairuse-sprite-game-alt. Minor thing. ht14 21:38, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thank you! I was basically following the format for the other Gen IV sprites and it had the -alt thing at the end. JelloTalk 21:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Are you sure you're not looking at the animated ones? Those have the -alt in the end. ht14 21:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry, I guess that was the problem. JelloTalk 21:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

OD Sprites

Can you resize the Amity Square ones so they are the same as the HGSS ones? ht14 04:50, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

You sure about that? What size do you want them? 32x32? JelloTalk 15:54, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
Guess so, consistency and all. ht14 04:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

OD Sprites (2)

See your BP talk page. ht14 23:14, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

According to TTE, only Venusaur, Pikachu, Meganium, Wobbuffet, Steelix, Heracross, Combee, Gible, Gabite, Garchomp, Hippopotas, and Hippowdon have alternate sprites. ht14 20:32, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

I see, I guess that explains the duplicate file. Thanks. JelloTalk 20:42, 30 April 2010 (UTC)


WELL? TTEchidna 04:33, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

YEAH, I CAN. JelloTalk 04:34, 20 May 2010 (UTC)


Just wonderin'. What powers do you have as admin? ht14 00:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Whatever Junior Administrators are supposed to have. [1] lists what I can do. I can move stuff, lol. JelloTalk 00:10, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Don't you feel special. :] What of this: Delete and undelete specific revisions of pages (deleterevision)? ht14 00:13, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
I can't delete stuff if that's what you're asking. But I can hide/delete specific revisions of files. JelloTalk 00:18, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Ahh. Thanks for this clarification. I'm still new to this "New Admin" thing. :) ht14 00:25, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Utilizing {{gamesprite}}

Dual games such as HGSS and FRLG have s in the end. For instance, the template for Bulbasaur's FRLG sprite would be as follows: {{gamesprite|001|Bulbasaur|FireRed and LeafGreen|s}}. The (s) is to avoid rdrs. ht14 00:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Haha, thank you! Didn't see that. JelloTalk 00:40, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Utilizing {{delete}}

While I agree with some of your ideas, realize that some images are meant to be personal images that are labeled incorrectly, licensing-wise. Don't worry, you're doing fine. ht14 21:49, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking that too, that's why I left that reason in the way that I did. Those images were meant for a totally useless article on Bulbapedia that got deleted anyway. JelloTalk 21:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
I left a talk page comment. I'll wait for about a week before deleting them. ht14 21:59, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

One more thing. Maybe it's just me, but I'd prefer if you typed in the name of the file that is the duplicate of the file-to-be deleted is. ht14 20:24, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

I usually do that, but in this case it was already listed as a duplicate file. JelloTalk 20:57, 4 July 2010 (UTC)


For the help in the category thing. I was going to do it later tonight, but now all I need to to is the little monsters and categorize the uncategorized.--immewnitythemew 19:52, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

No problem, we should be finished with this soon, since PsychicRider is helping out as well. JelloTalk 19:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC) it done already? Wow, that was fast! Thanks for the help!--immewnitythemew 20:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


Try not to do either. If an image doesn't fit as the original PNG, convert to JPG. Yes, there will be a slight loss of quality, but not too bad. If the original is a JPG, don't convert it to PNG. The image doesn't look any better, the file's bigger, and, to compensate for the 2MB limit, you must resize. The Ranger: Guardian Signs box art and the Ecruteak City landscape were both subjected to this. Do what I did for File:HGSS Johto.jpg and delete the PNG, with changing any PNG link to JPG. Just because PNG thumbnails better doesn't mean that a loss of quality another way will compensate.--immewnitythemew 19:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry if this sounded rude; I didn't mean for it to. Here are a bunch of HUGE cookies to make up for it! :D--immewnitythemew 20:58, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Hey, don't worry about it. I know you have a valid point. I have found that you can compress pngs, but that unfortunately takes a very long time. The Archives' rules and policy aren't that clear, and until we have something set in stone, I'm not sure what I should say or do. I would like to point out though, that extremely hi-res images are unnecessary, since these resolutions are meant for print. And in a way, it seems to be catering to and making it easier for people who pirate games and things along that line. As you can see, on Wikipedia, images aren't that hi-res because they claim fair use, and it isn't fair to Nintendo and other companies if we're uploading such extremely hi-res images. But I know these rules and policies don't apply here, so I'm just waiting on official word from higher ups. So as you can see, I was trying to go for a middle ground in terms of fair use. If you have any suggestions, I'm sure other administrators wouldn't mind hearing it. Thanks. JelloTalk 21:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
The thing is, with these images... they came directly from Nintendo. Anyone can access them (yes, username and password are needed, but all I did was email the PR guy and he gave them to me). Plus, Nate is happy with high-res, just not high-res scans, like cards (as they're not that big originally).--immewnitythemew 22:15, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Hate to burst your bubble... *pop*

...but the new rules are maximum resolution of 1080, not 1084, as you've done on multiple images. (probably confused it with 1024)--immewnitythemew 01:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh my gosh, thanks for telling me, Nate just told me about it. I probably didn't read it properly. xD. I'll go ahead and re-upload them. JelloTalk 01:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Help wanted

How would you like to help me in centering the GS Sugimori art that I uploaded? They're better quality, but not centered... ht14 02:36, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing, do you want me to just crop it? There seems to be extra white stuff around it. JelloTalk 03:28, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Whatever works for you. ht14 22:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Start from Remoraid for the updates, but also add Umbreon to your schedule if it's ok with you. ht14 02:56, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Size limits

Don't forget: max resolution size is 1080 x 1080. ht14 22:07, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I know. I'll resize them later, I've been kind of busy getting these images up AND writing the article on BN. D: JelloTalk 22:12, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
All right, just making sure. :] ht14 22:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Deletion of Rankurusu sprite

I was under the impression that the sprites on Serebii were ripped from actual screenshots and not created by Serebii. If this is indeed the case, then they are fair use and Serebii does not own them. The sprite in question appears to be ripped from a higher-quality version of this screenshot. I'm not sure what you meant by "Serebii doesn't like his images being stolen". Like it or not, the images Serebii posts do not belong to him and anyone here has every right to do with them what they will.--Bad Wolf 02:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

While I understand Serebii does not own those images, the fact is those screenshots came from his site. He was able to get them because a press kit was sent to him. As of right now Bulbanews does not get those press kits, but we are in the works of getting them ourselves. Unless bigger screenshots appear on the official websites, then we can't have these sprites uploaded for now. Also, that image was the wrong size anyway (90x90), when it should have been 80x80 pixels. You're welcome to bring this argument to Serebii himself and see what he says. JelloTalk 02:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: About jpgs

Okay thanks, so are you gonna delete the converted ones, although I made them transparent to replace the ones used on pedia that aren't transparent and smaller. Is making the white backgrounds of png files preferred too?. --Renzo493 6:19, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I won't delete those ones, since we don't have anything else to replace them, but yeah. If you make the backgrounds transparent, that is preferred. JelloTalk 06:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

BW starters

I already uploaded their anime pictures at :Image:Tsutarja (anime).jpg, :Image:Pokabu (anime).jpg, and:Image:Mijumaru (anime).jpg. --Shiny Noctowl 01:53, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

See your talk page for the message I left. JelloTalk 01:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I replied there. --Shiny Noctowl 02:06, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

OD Sprites (3)

How many have you got to go? たかはり 07:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you look here: User:Ht14/Trainer you can see what I have left to do. Pretty much Gen III and IV, and then after that all the shiny sprites from Gen I-IV. So, it's still a lot. JelloTalk 19:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hi

No I don't mind, in fact I'll upload the image right now.--Starman125 00:15, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Um, the Igglybuff article (the Sprites section) was showing a redlink, that's why I uploaded the image. Besides, the other image said it was the same sprite.--Starman125 18:34, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
It's alright, the file should have actually been redirected, that's why the redlink was appearing on it's page. JelloTalk 19:03, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Image "release"

Was it leaked July 6 or July 7 (JP)? If it's the latter, do we still consider it July 7 or what? ht14 02:24, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

We go by Japan time so, July 7th? Just make sure it clear that it's Japan time. Jellotalk 02:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
In that case, the article... I'll fix it. ht14 02:38, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Or not... thanks for confirming this with me though. I had a feeling of this. ht14 02:43, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Old Revisions

Hey Jel, can you delete the old revisions of Ash's Infernape pic? There are total 14 versions of the same pic (re-uploaded, again and again and again *sigh*). Can you please delete the old revisions? They are not needed anymore. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 13:49, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing, I've gone ahead and deleted what I could. Jellotalk 18:17, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, btw there are some other pics waiting for you. I mean to say that they've the same multiple revisions problem specially the headers of Ash's Pokémon, their old revisions aren't in any use so they should be removed as well :) ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 01:08, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey Jel, you might wanna look at this. Its full of useless old versions not to mention the low quality. It would be nice if you keep the newer revisions and delete the old ones, thanks. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 13:42, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Hey Adyniz, just thought I'd let you know, I can't just wipe everything from the history, I'm only going after duplicates, since I've gotten into a little bit of trouble with Nate. Jellotalk 17:49, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I got it. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 23:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


Hey Jell, is there anything you'd like help with? たかはり 06:28, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Nope, it's alright, I was just finishing up and now I'm headed for bed xD If you have screenshots of the older anime episodes, see if any of the articles need them. Thanks. Jellotalk 06:33, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
OK, well if you ever need any help with any archives stuff, just ask. I'd be happy to help :3 たかはり 06:39, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Image sizing

Limit's gone, so feel free to upload the non resized screen of PS.--immewnitythemew 23:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh wow, I didn't even notice that. Thanks! Jellotalk 23:48, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Limit's been reinstated, by the way. MaverickNate 01:06, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

New "project" idea

Hey Jello, since your the Queen of the archives, I thought I'd ask you: what do you say about moving all of these images to File:(move name with spaces).png? It's been bugging me for a while and I've just re-uploaded a bunch of them that are HGSS screenshots into files with names like File:(movenameDPPt).png. Its just a huge thought. Everything else has specific names. These move images are a bit very unorganised. I'd do it myself, but I don't have admin privileges and therefore can't move any files :(
Thanks Jellybean --たかはり 11:06, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

The policy has been the following: Images from the most recent game are "File:Move.png". Images from previous generations are "File:Move GEN##". (File:Cut III.png) Images that changed withing a generation get the game codes. (File:Aeroblast DP.png) MaverickNate 12:30, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
But do we even need moves images from older generations? Do they even get used? I just think it would be better if we just had a screenshot of the latest game called File:Absorb.png. Obvioulsy I'm not gonna argue with you guys, but I just think this would be a better way to do it. たかはり 02:19, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, we do, we're an encyclopedia after all. We are looking to preserve moves from older generations, and Nate has said that there are plans to implement a template to fit all this in the moves pages, so it would be preferred if you didn't upload over the older ones, and instead upload the newer ones at their appropriate name. Jellotalk 03:20, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, I'd like to help by supplying the replacement move images, with accurate colour, PNG compression and no botched-up transparencies. However, I can't upload over preexisting images since I'm a new user around here. Next up - Tackle!--Turtwig Lover 05:16, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Understood! I'll help Turtwig Lover upload his screenshots with the appropriate name. たかはり 09:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
I've just been watching the Recent Changes. I understand fully now, and I like how this system works. I've made a template for use when uploading these images, what does everyone think? たかはり 09:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
One more thing (sorry Jell): Should we make categories such as Category:Gen I moves (game), Category:Gen II moves (game) etc? I'll leave you alone now xD たかはり 09:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


Hey Jel, I was thinking to upload the transparent versions of these images because there are heck a lot of images which are not transparent and I would like to start working on the non-transparent images. Just wanted to confirm that is it ok or not? By the way, I've noticed that a lot of pics are not in the "transparency needed" category which should be there. Why is that so? Just asking :) ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 15:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead. As for the transparency needed category, it has to be put in there manually by other users. There's no way to detect if an image is transparent or not automatically. Jellotalk 15:44, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh, got it. Thanks ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 15:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
One question, what's that Patrolled option for? I mean, what's its use? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 19:16, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Not sure really, I never used it. From what I heard from others it's kinda useless. It just marks an edit as good or something. Jellotalk 20:20, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
On an ideal wiki, we'd use patrol to let other staff know the edit has been verified. It really probably ought to be used more, especially on Bulbapedia. —darklordtrom 21:27, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Oh, so that's how it works. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 21:49, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
Have another question, isn't there any template named {{User Archives Staff|JAdmin}} just like we have {{User Bulbapedia Staff|JAdmin}} for bulbapedia JAs. Just asking. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 05:19, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Nope, none of that stuff. You can make a custom one if you like for your own userspace. Jellotalk 05:31, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, I'm ultra bad at this template thingy but I guess there's always a first time for everything. I might try to make one *debut alert*. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 05:34, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Here we go. Is it ok? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 05:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Trainer sprites

Sorry, I didn't see the templates, I looked the name of the other sprites and then i followed that model. Next time I'll follow the BW template.

- Paper Mariotalk

Oh, don't worry about it. The one we're using now is a new standard, so eventually we'll be moving all the sprites to follow that format. Jellotalk 22:17, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
Btw, how can I add the template to the image?
Paper Mario 22:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
You should be able to edit the file page from the top and add it in there. Jellotalk 22:34, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
To clarify, you can do it like this. On the summary section, add this:

{{trainersprite|Trainername (Trainer class)|Game(s)|Trainername}}

Trainername: Teacher, Camper, etc.
Game(s): Red and Blue, Gold and Silver, Black and White, etc.

Yeah, that's about it. ht14 22:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: faded images

Those were done when I couldn't use Desmume. no$gba sucks, now that I think about it. But now I can use the former, so...this better? Give me about half an hour and I can reupload Freeze Bolt and Cold Flare. Frugali 04:02, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it's fine now. Thanks. Jellotalk 05:12, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Revision Policy

Hey Jel, can you please explain the (show/hide) revision policy? When I am supposed to hide an old revision? Any particular rule or something? Want to know it in details, thanks. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 05:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, there really isn't any "policy" for that. If somebody vandalized an image for example, you could hide that revision from the public. Stuff like that. Jellotalk 05:33, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Got it, what about old or "undo/revert" revisions? I mean to say that if an image have a lot of revisions/old version, is it allowed to hide unnecessary revisions? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 05:39, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Nah, just leave that to us. We have the ability to actually delete the revisions, which is different then just hiding them. Jellotalk 05:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Cool, thanks for the help. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 05:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey Jel, can you tell me how to remove the TV Tokyo logo on the top of the image completely? I tried to blur it down but it messes up the impact and looks kind of sucky. Do you know any software (and a way to make it go away). ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 04:07, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Can you please unprotect this? I tried to upload a better (logo less) version but it's protected. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 16:09, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, bro I was in class, haha. Psy seems to have taken care of it. Jellotalk 19:26, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
No prob :) ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 02:56, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey Jel, don't you think we should update the main page message? It's the same since september 10 and I don't we're having that size problem anymore. You can update it mentioning something about the spirits pics since you many users are busy in Generation V stuff. What do you think? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:26, 30 October 2010 (UTC)


1. I was told that the policy stated that no animated sprites of B/W were to be posted, I was misinformed by JUNIOR ADMINISTRATOR Umeko.

2. I was not typing in anger, I use ALLCAPS to attract attention, as some people, for some odd reason, like to not read it and simply edit, despite what it says.

3. My previous browser, Safari (Which I now no longer use) was not showing the animations. Now that I have firefox I can see the animated .gifs.

4. I was not trying to start an edit war. I had reverted a couple of times, then stopped when I learned that using the animated sprites was ok.

My apologies. - 050294 06:00, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

It's alright, I finally did figure out what the problem was. You could have easily brought it up on my talk page or something. They're animated .pngs, just for the record. Umeko didn't really misinform you. She's right in the fact that the first frame of an ANIMATED png should have the frame that people without the ability to see animated .pngs could see. Maybe she wasn't clear on that but yeah. Everyone reverting you was an administrator though, so you should have just brought it up on our talk pages. I'll get around to fixing those animations when I'm free. Thanks. Jellotalk 07:12, 25 October 2010 (UTC)


Hey Jel, what should I do with the redirects after moving the images? Should I replace redirect with delete or something? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 06:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

yes you should Ataro 06:59, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Got it, thanks At. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 07:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, pretty much. Also, be careful when you move a file, it affects the BP side as well, I don't want any screw ups, alright? (Nate will come hunt you down) Jellotalk 17:02, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
I think you're talking about re-naming the files on bp after moving them, right? Don't worry, I'll take care of that. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 17:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

If the file is used on Bulbanews, make sure to let someone know to fix it. —darklordtrom 21:01, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Getto daze ;) ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 02:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

What's going on

I was wondering if you have any clue on what is going on with this image. It works great here on the archives but not on Bulbapedia. It's have been a few days and still nothing in BP's side. And if you refresh this page enough, it will appear, and then the next time you refresh, it disappears? - Vhayes1992 15:21, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

That's because of server sync issue. It happens sometimes but it eventually gets fixed. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 15:44, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Why PsychicRider is gone!?

Someone told me that one of the admins, Psychic Rider, has been gone from BulbaPedia! Before I knew it, I left a message on his Talk Page but it was only then I was told he's gone. But...why? He was the one who welcomed me in BulbaPedia and was very nice... TokoyamiTheDark 21:23, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

Psy is only an admin on the Archives (for now!) He had to leave due to school related work but he's back now. He had asked all his pages and powers be removed in order to better concentrate on school. That's all. Jellotalk 21:34, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

About the image thing

First off, I am sorry if I insulted you when I wrote fail; I was more or less joking around about the accidental "Johto" instead of "Kanto." I did not intend for it to be mean.

Secondly, the reason I added the delete template was due to what Nate told me on my talk page a while ago about JPG->PNG. If standards have changed since then, I didn't know.

Third, and on a lighter side of things, how the in the world did you manage to upload that! I've been trying to upload files over 2 meg for years, and you did so with that map!--immewnitythemew 13:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Um no..

Actually the Orange League badges was the only one that is larger than the previous version, BUT the original one was a larger close-up. While both the johto badges and and the orange league cup were exact duplicates by dimnesions and kb size and that's what I remember, and the reason Patty only uploaded those because the original ones have capital PNGs which we can just rename the original ones. Renzo493 only put delete tags on them to aware duplicates so it's pretty unfair he got to be blocked, and besides I did more on the edit war than he did. --ChuckieCheese 5:07, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

Alright. Thank you for clearing that up. His block has been removed. Jellotalk 05:06, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Logoed images

A bunch of anime images with logos are being uploaded* by many users according to the recent uploads page. Pattyman 22:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I am aware. It's not that big of a deal right now, as this is the only way to get good quality screenshots. Ones without logos can always be uploaded later. Jellotalk 00:11, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Oh. It's just that the policy didn't allow any type of writing on it. I was just trying to follow the rules. Pattyman 00:21, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
These images could be fixed to be made logo-less. Is that true? Pattyman 00:23, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
They could be fixed if someone is really good at editing it out or, we can wait for a broadcast of the episode without a logo. It just aired today, so it's kind of impossible right now to get one without a logo. Jellotalk 00:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I edited out some of those images so far. I am not planning to do all of them at once (too much work and time). By the way, on the site and site, their images also had the same problem. Pattyman 00:51, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I'll help remove some of the logos. People should atleast try and remove the logo themselves before uploading though. - Vhayes1992 20:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I'm not that good at stuff like this..I can do stuff like the Pururiru image (because, who can't? seriously) but I mess up on the ones with more background colors Ataro 21:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I agree with Ataro. I'm not good at image editing stuff either, but we'll try to remove the logos from the simpler ones. By the way, thanks Vhayes & Patty for removing the logos. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 10:13, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
Jel, can you please have a look at this image? My first editing attempt to remove a logo, is it looking bad? ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 10:31, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
If it looks obvious, then it's not good enough :P Keep trying. Jellotalk 18:50, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Now we are here

lets come back to the subject here..... You said that my image was horrible but do you know what image i am speaking? Take a look in deletetion log page ( i think the name is correct) The Image Is Charizard Movie 3.png and be honest, the image has good quality to be here after all it spent about 3 mouth in use at Charizard article. and my personal image that was deleted is a charizard custom sprite with name of Ash.Charizard. Sprite.PNG. If you was sensible you will see that the image that i am begging to you let be in bulbapedia is completly awesome, i will put the descrition: "Ash and Charizard.", like many other articles of ash's pokemon (tsujarja, pokabu mijumaru are some Examples.). Pedraito 00:41, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

I've restored your sprite. Keep in mind the personal image limit is 2. If you ever want to use another one, you must ask someone to delete one of your earlier images first. As for the Charizard movie image, it could not be used because there was no place for it in the article and it doesn't really show much of Charizard's body at all. Like I said, don't take it personally. Also, you might want to take your mind off Charizard and try uploading other images. Jellotalk 00:47, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for the sprite! ^^ but there are lot of other pokemons with the same type of image(withou the full body), Houdoom, Steelix, Tyranitar, Agrron are some examples! you really think that my image cannot have a chance?

PS: Sorry, my bad english, i am not american or english, I am brazilian and i have been studied english for 2 years so i am not a master in your language. but please! let me re upload the image Pedraito 01:04, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Images with full body should be used as much as possible. Some Pokémon don't appear full body at times, so the next best thing is used. So, sorry, we cannot use your image. Don't worry about your English, English isn't my first language either :P Jellotalk 01:10, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Okay, What rest for me is pray for charizard come back to the anime and the animators do their work well, cause in the last episode that charizard is showed, it looks like a crazy dragon "drawed" by a 5 years old kid! but thank you for your patience, you were very kind with me. And was a surprise for me yout first language is not english you write very well, i think. xD Pedraito 01:21, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Regarding My Anime Pic Warnings

Hi Jello, I have now replaced the anime pics I uploaded with .png's, is it okay to just delete the .jpg versions? Vuvuzela2010 17:38, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep, I'll delete them now. Thank you for replacing them! Jellotalk 18:05, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Shell Blade

May I know the exact reason for undoing this? It's the new version of shell blade used in BW013. Is there anything wrong with that? Thanks ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 13:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Um, not to nitpick about the new shell blade but if you look closely it's just the enegy coming out of the tip if the shell instead of the side (and the preview for BW015 shows Shell Blade the previous way) and that's the only difference Ataro 17:28, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Okay. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 17:38, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
I told you what was wrong with it in the edit summary. Pretty much what Ataro said. We're going for quality here, not what the most recent episode looks like. Jellotalk 18:01, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Col/XD menu sprite category and shiny Pokemon

Hi Jello, is there any way to edit the MenuspriteGC template so that shiny Pokemon are only put in the Colosseum/XD shiny menu sprites category, rather than the Colosseum menu sprites category (A similar change would need to be made to the Coloxdbox template too)? Vuvuzela2010 00:28, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

It's done. Simply put shiny for the third parser, after the Pokémon's name. If it's not shiny, leave it alone. So, for instance, say it's Bulbasaur's shiny sprite. It will be {{MenuspriteGC|001|Bulbasaur|shiny}}}. Compare to {{MenuspriteGC|001|Bulbasaur}}, which is the regular sprite. ht14 00:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
The boxsprite template is working fine, but the menusprite template is redlinking to Colosseum shiny menusprites rather than Colosseum/XD shiny menusprites. Vuvuzela2010 00:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
If it's ok with you, I'm leaving it as Colosseum menu sprites and Colosseum shiny menu sprites, it makes more sense. ht14 00:52, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

png policy

When was the policy of uploading pngs instead of jpgs on certain images introduced? Pattyman 00:44, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

No clue. It was around even before I was here. Jellotalk 00:55, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
I asked because many of them* were uploaded and nothing happened. However, in 2010, they got replaced by pngs. I was one of the users that took care of the jpg problem along with some others. Pattyman 04:24, 4 January 2011 (UTC)



THANKS PSYDUCK. NATE 4 EVER. Jellotalk 08:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
YO WELCOME GURL. HIEL NATO! --P S Yライダー 08:41, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Congrats Jel. EB? That's awesome. ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 11:11, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

I believe this is the community forums page for the Archives

Where do you get your lovely images? ;A; --P S Yライダー 18:06, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

My secret sauce. Jellotalk 18:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)


I did all of the pages on Bulbapedia that had red links. I got thrown off with the delete tag on some of the, images as I kept on being told that some of them were fake. Pattyman 04:06, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for that. Just stay away from move images for now, you can move other images if you want. Remember to always change the link as soon as you move the image, and always add a delete tag to the redirects. Jellotalk 04:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I believe that I am done with the move images. Technically, I wanted to move them in the first place because of the capital pngs. I am going to deal with the non-move images. Pattyman 04:38, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

RE: Mapas BW

I said something in this talk page, because I also want to know the opinion of CoolPikachu!, but I'll also apreciatte if you could answer my question, please. --Gabo 2oo 04:57, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

I replied there. Jellotalk 05:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, and I actually don't have too much time to upload the maps in all other sites, but if other people do, they should put in the file description soething like "credit to (...)" with a link or something to the user that uploaded the original file, so, come to think it, you're right, so i'm not going to upload the maps unless they start putting the credits in the files.
--Gabo 2oo 16:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

About those super powers

Hey Jel, I'm here to inform you about my super powers. I've to delete a bunch of movie 8 screenshots so Psy gave me S/A powers back for almost 12 hours. So, he told me to inform you just in case. Thanks ♫♪AdyNiz♪♫ 06:59, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for telling me. You can probably keep the up until the weekend since we're doing a mass move anyway. Jellotalk 16:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Unown (more specifically; this [the bottom part])

So, I was about to do the renaming, but CoolPikachu said that the Unown were probably undecided yet, so I backed off. Do I go on? Sorry to make so many questions, I just want to be sure before doing something. Also, I did all of the transparencies for the GS Unown (and some from Crystal, plus Caterpie and its shiny). Masatoshi talk contribs 14:06, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Just move them, we can worry about that later. Jellotalk 22:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Don't want to bust the server.

It safe to mass-upload on my sprite project? Just making sure, don't want to destroy the server.—★Pika3323 21:49, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Right now, it should be okay. If you notice any problems then you should probably slow down. Jellotalk 01:25, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Aw poo, missing file error, such an annoying one...—★Pika3323 11:25, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Regarding editing

Do you know when editing on Bulbapedia will get restored? Pattyman 03:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Hopefully soon, have gotten more servers but we're still experiencing problems, so once those get fixed it should open again. Jellotalk 06:46, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Picture questions

Hey Jello. I've got some questions regarding some images I've gotten my hands on, and I'd figured I'd ask you on here. They are a little small, is there a certain size that anime pictures have to be? I've read the policy, but it just talks about episode pictures, which I'm guessing is the main screenshot for the episode? Also, are the Archives opened to the public yet; for future references. Thanks! Littlmiget123 00:30, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

It shouldn't be smaller than 320x240, though 1280x720 is what's most preferred. Editing is open to everyone, so feel free to upload whatever you need to. Jellotalk 01:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)


Hello. I'm just here to request something, not really sure if I should be doing this anyway..but...I was just asking if I could have...temporary JA powers (at least for a few hours or so...) so I could edit on Bulbapedia. My "things to do on Bulbapedia" list is piling up to an annoying amount and I'd kind of like to shrink it down a little...I've also noticed that some pages were needing some name changes. Ataro 18:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

This kind of thing needs to be discussed with the EB first, so I'll pass this along to them. I can't actually do something like this on my own, so I hope you understand. Jellotalk 19:03, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Is it over?

Judging by what you did recently (Recent Changes) I'm guessing the BW rush is all over isn't it?—★Pika3323 22:09, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Sort of. The archives are unlocked for everyone, so there's no need for those powers anymore. Jellotalk 22:17, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Well I kind of meant the real rush, when you guys were moving files like crazy. But there's also art to upload too, but why need higher quality art when it's going to be re-sized on the articles?—★Pika3323 22:25, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
It's nice to look at. No one said you had to upload a higher quality of what we already had. The reason we have the limits in places is due to fair use laws. We can't claim fair use if the image is the exact same size as the original. These images are meant for print, not distributing around. There's no reason someone would need a 4000x4000 pixel image unless they were planning on doing something bad :P. Jellotalk 22:29, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
I thought the limits were there not to destroy the server with, oh say a 11144X7025 image?—★Pika3323 22:33, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Can you block me until 2:30PM(EST) tomorrow? Just thought about uploading a sprite... the thought creaped me out. (Sorry, but its a crazy task which I WANT to finish, but...) Time to calm down...—★Pika3323 20:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Sure. Jellotalk 20:57, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
Shouldn't you move dream world art? Or at least change their summaries? Or is that second do-dad for me to do.—★Pika3323 11:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Move them to what? Jellotalk 19:50, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Do you want the HQ art?—★Pika3323 21:58, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
For the dream world? Sure. Jellotalk 22:00, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
"Coming in the near future!" then...—★Pika3323 22:02, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for busting the limits, AGAIN. But, it's HQ DW art right? (Won't happen again)—★Pika3323 02:08, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
I don't understand why it's so hard to resize images? Keep it under 1280 (length and width) next time, please. You can't exactly call huge images fair use. Jellotalk 02:44, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
That one was destined for re-upload, I screwed up. =P—★Pika3323 10:15, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Is there a deadline...

for these sprites that I'm uploading, like when do I need to finish this by.—★Pika3323 20:46, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Not really, though as early as they can be done would be nice. Someone is working on a new sprite table template. It would be nice to have all the sprites before then. Jellotalk 00:42, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Got it, help from someone would be nice though...It's a pain in the *** to do it alone.—★Pika3323 19:28, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Lemme guess, Werdnae is making it?—★Pika3323 22:17, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes. Jellotalk 00:15, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Wait, which has higher priority? DW art or Sprites.—★Pika3323 22:41, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Sprites. Masatoshitalk 22:44, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

That sprite

'Scuse me, but I checked, very closely. They're different. Use Paint.NET, check the flower, PT is one color, DP is another very similar color.—★Pika3323 00:29, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I just checked. D: Jellotalk 00:30, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm sorry, that's my fault :S.--MisterE13 00:38, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
PLEASE tell me the duplicate checker is on, I'm really relying on it! *facepalm* Of course it's on... Just want to X2 check.—★Pika3323 11:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Personal image limit

A user has uploaded three personal images when the limit was supposed to be two. Pattyman 16:33, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Huston, we have a problem

I made a very major mistake, but even if 200 people tried they probably wouldn't see it, It's da platinum sprites. Almost each one has a minorly different color. Do I need to upload the platinum sprites, or keep this error a secret? (You can't notice the difference at all)—★Pika3323 13:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Jello, I need to know, if not, I won't continue.—★Pika3323 20:06, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
For now, if they have a difference, upload them however minor they are. Jellotalk 22:10, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Ok then, this is going to look weird, a bunch of delete notices on blank pages to make room for the files. =P—★Pika3323 22:18, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
This looks like a weird question, but can I have some temporary powers to delete the redirects to make way for the different files?—★Pika3323 00:46, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Jello, the disease has spread to frontal sprites too.—★Pika3323 19:03, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Change of plans. If there's barely a difference between the palettes, don't upload it. If you can it actually tell from the naked eye, then you can upload it. This isn't making any sense right now. Jellotalk 03:09, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Ok this will save time then. (now where was I?)—★Pika3323 10:56, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
This means the unfinished ones right? (Like linoone)—★Pika3323 19:27, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Jello, I don't want to get in trouble if I do something wrong, but I still want to get the stuff done. I know you've been around the bulbawiki network since I asked the question.—★Pika3323 21:51, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Yes, for the unfinished ones. Jellotalk 22:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
Which is worth more to us, a static sprite or an ani sprite with errors?—★Pika3323 22:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Static. Jellotalk 23:27, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


So... I just read User_talk:Flare_drive#Position_of_Generation_II_sprites and now I feel stupid.

I was going to "fix" all of them to be the ones my scripts generated. Now I'll have to make my script center them? Or should they be like the ones actually in G/S/C. Even if they appear right-aligned in those templates. IMO, they should be like in the game.

Also about backsprites, I've found there actually is a difference between the palettes of a couple between G/S and C that are currently redirects that I can't replace (Ivysaur, Butterfree are examples: File:Spr b 2c 002.png, File:Spr b 2c 012.png). How would I go about fixing those? Or are they too unnoticeable to matter? ~ Ribose · talk · cntr · 00:41, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

If there's a clear difference, you can just place a {{delete}} tag on them and someone will come by and delete it. As for the sprites, I believe they should be centered so they look proper on the templates in the articles. Jellotalk 01:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)


It's 'on sight', by the way. Bluesun 16:53, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! This is what I get for rushing things. Jellotalk 17:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Tepig screenshot

Not asking for my image to be restored, but for the current image to be moved; é causes a lot of issues in image titles. I lost a few images on my wiki that way, so just a word of warning.--immewnitythemew 01:47, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

I was told é does not cause issues here, but that other non-alphanumerica characters do. Jellotalk 02:25, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Who said that? I keep getting the é to become é eventually. It messes things up. Maybe that was for page titles?--immewnitythemew 03:28, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Zhen said accent e is fine. I am definitely not talking about page titles. I don't do work behind the servers but this is what has been told to me, so I'd appreciate it if you would take my word for it. Jellotalk 06:10, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Odd. I'll ask Zhen (that is, if he is ever on again).--immewnitythemew 13:00, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
He has been online in the last 2 months.—★Pika3323 18:54, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Okay guys? I can handle it. If I say Zhen said it was okay, then please for god sakes take my word for it. I don't understand why people can't give me a little respect. I'm not asking for much. You guys are acting like Zhen is only in contact with you and that you run the Archives here. This wiki is run differently, and Zhen does a lot of custom work here. So, if it doesn't work on your wiki, it doesn't mean the same applies here. I'm not some kind of idiot. But if my word isn't good enough for you, by all means ask Zhen. Thanks. Jellotalk 19:05, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I am giving you full respect. I am saying that, from prior experience, the accented e causes issues, and I don't want the issue to happen here. I'm learning from previous experience, and am simply sharing that lesson. I did ask Zhen, and am awaiting his response. Zhen is only human and could have made a mistake. Unless he modified the server structure and the MySQL scripts, then this is an issue. Mistakes can happen, which is why the alphanumeric structure went in place.--immewnitythemew 19:24, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Just asked Zhen myself, and he gave this response: "I don't believe it causes problems, but I have never investigated it deeply." If it was a problem, I'm sure I would have been told to stop using é. But for now, I have not, so I will continue to allow its use. Kogoro also told me that she also investigated this issue, and couldn't find any reason to believe that it causes any problems. Jellotalk 21:22, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Just throwing this out there, the main reason we're worried about this may have actually been caused by the corruption problems we had.—★Pika3323 21:53, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
I get it. But again, I'll ask one last time that you guys drop this issue. I've had enough of this. If there is ever a problem rest assured we have capable people here to handle it. Jellotalk 00:53, 3 June 2011 (UTC)